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6/18/2022 0 Comments Weekend Edition 11 - It's Not Over, It's Time To Dream Again - with Josh Gagnon
Josh and I talk about leaving behind disappointment and learning to dream again, which is actually the subtitle of his book. Josh Gagnon is the lead pastor of Next Level Church, a multi-site church in New Hampshire, Massachusetts, and Florida.
Josh wrote his book, It's Not Over - Leaving Behind Disappointment and Learning to Dream Again, and released it just weeks before COVID closed all our churches. Josh's words and message are prescient and timely for us today - especially in connection with Episode 87 of this podcast as we look forward to forming the very first Coaching For Pastors cohort group and explore together how to live an extraordinary life. You are going to enjoy this episode! It was recorded and edited with love for you and your ministry!
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Ever feel like you need to somehow get to the next level in your life, but don't know how? You have church peeps and friends but not anyone who is challenging you and pushing you in a healthy way to grow and seriously better yourself.
Ever think, "I need to stop coasting and set sail on a serious goal or mission"? This episode just might be for you - if...
Listen, and see if you are picking up what Jeff is laying down... 
There has been a need for innovation in the area of preaching for many years. It's long past due for us to take a serious look at it. So many older (over 40) pastors simply assuage the masses in their church (even if it's only dozens) and simply stand and give a Bible speech each week.
Too often these speeches contain no follow-up, no application, no discussion, no opportunity for questions, and no impact. We need the GenZ and Millennial generations to lead the church out of this often fruitless endeavor. In Episode 86 I ask some questions around the practice of preaching in our churches. I am hoping the twenty and thirty somethings have answers! 
Sometimes in ministry leadership someone, it seems, way overreacts to something we say or do - and we do not know why! "What in the world just happened?!" we say to ourselves. But we are unaware of the systems in the church, and the buttons we might have just inadvertently pushed.
In their book, Leading Congregational Change, Herrington, Bonem, and Furr talk about how everything in a church system is interrelated and connected to everything else, so when we tap on this piece over here, that piece across the room moves too. How can we attempt to lead congregational change in a way that minimizes the potential explosions and broken things in the end? This is what Jeff talks about today. 
On Leadership Tuesday, Jeff talks about the difference between a shepherd and organizational leader. Which one are you? Neither is right or wrong, but our wiring and gifting usually drives us toward one more than the other.
Either way you go, there are challenges. How we confront and deal with the challenges determines the effectiveness of our ministry. You are doing a great work Pastor! Never compare or contrast yourself with another pastor - there is always despair when we compare. God has created and called you to pastor your church, with your unique strengths and gifts. Delegate other people equipped to do what you aren't good at. Enjoy this episode! 
We get caught up in our culture of doing more, moving faster and further, achieving, and acquiring... and sometimes we forget about rest, replenishment, renewal, refreshment, recreation, and sabbath.
Jeff speaks about Sabbath and disrupting our current way of doing things in order to produce a different result. Plus, a quick clip from Ken Shigematsu always helps! 
My friend Rob Douglas told me, last September, that I should read the book, Spiritual Multiplication in the Real World - Why some disciplemakers reproduce when others fail, by Bob McNabb.
I bought it, read it, shared it with my elders, had many discussions on the book in our elder meetings, and then led a disciplemaking team through the book and workbook this calendar year of 2022. And then... Brought Bob McNabb into our conference room via Zoom to talk with my XD (multiplying disciples) Group, and recorded audio with him for this episode of Coaching For Pastors. You're welcome. :-) Like the old Burger King jingle... "I do it all... for you!" This is a fantastic MasterClass on "How to increase the effectiveness of disciplemaking in your church." I hope that you enjoy it and that you get the book and workbook and go through it with people and leaders in your local church. 
I had some pretty big defining moments in the summer of '92, the summer of '02, January 2010, Fall of 2014, the summer of 2017, etc. These were times where some defining moments in my life changed the course and direction of my entire life!
But, I had to make a decision to step into each one of them. At every juncture, I could have sidestepped those moments, and at every one of them, I was looking for what God was calling me to do. I was open, willing, scared to death, but wondering at the possibilities. Maybe summer 2022 holds your defining moment? You think? That's what I talk about today in Episode 82... 
You have things from your past that are limiting your success in the present. Your perspective must change as you replace faulty thinking with God's truth. What fears, hangups, limiting beliefs, or wrong assumptions have you been hanging onto that you need to jettison and replace with God's truth?
Jeff will challenge you to replace bad thinking, fears, and failure with biblical truth, courage, and a winning attitude. 
Your kids will view the church through the lens of your parenting, and the "caught" experience they receive from you. How are you doing in your relationship to the church you lead, and how are your kids experiencing it because they are in your family?
You want your kids to love the Lord, love his church, and be an active part of a healthy church family. Jeff talks with you today about how you living out your calling will impact that. |
AuthorJeff Keady has been a pastor for 35 years and podcaster to pastors for 9 years - Coaching For Pastors is his latest podcast! Archives
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